Digiscoping with Swarovski

Digiscoping has already taken off, as anyone knows who's traveled in south-east Asia. Why not give it a go yourself? by Simon Mustoe

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  1. Johannes says:

    Dear Alastair,

    I hope you get this message as i was not able to signup to birding-aus for some reason. Maybe someone could kindly post it on my behalf.

    Anyway, The scope you have is great for digiscoping. What would be important to know is what eyepiece you are using or indent on using and the model no / description of your camera.

    In general the DCB-A (A stands for angled Telescope – there is also a DCB-S which is for the straight telescopes) is a nice and practical adapter with the drawback that it is only suitable for point and shoot cameras. It is not designed to be used in combination with DSLRs. Setting it up can also be a bit cumbersome.

    My personal preference is clearly the UCA which works very well with all our variable zoom eyepieces (it does not work with the fixed zoom eyepieces !). Whilst it might not look as sophisticated as the DCB, in practical terms it is very easy to use. Once setup correctly for your camera, it is a matter of sliding the adapter + camera on and off the eyepiece and it allows you to quickly and quietly change from observing to digiscoping and the other way around. An additional advantage of this bracket in my opinion is that chances are you will change your camera prior you will change your scope. Since the UCA can accommodate both, many DSLR’s (with a fixed 50mm lens) and many Point and shoot cameras (with optical zoom up to x4), my recommendation to you would be to look at the UCA.

    As mentioned initially, please let me know about your eyepiece & camera specifications.

    I hope that the above helped you a bit and please, if you have any questions or need any further informtion, dont hesitate to contact me

    happy birding and kind regards,

    Hannes

  2. Alastair Smith says:

    I read Simon’s article with interest as I have a Swarovski 65HD ATS scope.

    Does anyone have experience with the two different types of digiscoping attachments for the Swarovski; the universal camera attachment (UCA)
    and/or the digital camera base (DCB) and can offer a recommendation. I have a bog standard panasonic lumix digital camera and would love to be
    able to give digiscoping a try.

    Originally posted to birding-aus

  3. Bird-O says:

    Q. I notice the photo of your setup has the DSLR connected directly to the scope (of course). Is there any glass between the DSLR’s CCD and the scope itself? That is, when you put the adaptor onto the DSLR, do you have to remove the lens? I can see kilograms of dust coming in at this point.

    A. You are right, the image is the TLS 800. It’s essentially an 800mm lens attachment. The article was more about the UCA, which fits over the top of the telescope eye piece. Using the TLS800 is similar to the way you change a lens on a Canon camera. There’s an inexpensive adaptor you use to make the TLS800 fit into the bayonet mount on the Canon. Hence, the dust issue you talk about would be a risk for the TLS 800 but not the UCA. Though I figure it’s the same problem any photographer has when swapping from a wide angle to telephoto lens.

  4. Johannes says:

    The TLS800 is andapter for DSLR’s only. It connects the scope body directly via a T-mount (you can get T2 adapter for all major camera brands – nikon, canon, pentax, …) to the camera body. To my knowledge, it contains 7 glas elements and is, like the scope, waterproof to 4 meters and weights approx. 240g. The scope (regardless whether it is a 65 or 80) and TLS800 combination will act like an 800mm telephotolens on a full frame DSLR. For an APS-C with a crop of say, 1.6 it will act as a 1280mm (referenced to full-frame) telephoto lens (f/10 for an 80mm and f/12 for a 65mm scope).

    When i use this setup and want to change from observing to digiscoping, I have the TLS800 permanently on the camera and never detach it.

    The image quality is naturally better as there are less glass elements inbetween the objective and the sensor. Further, if you have a DSLR with fairly good high ISO performance, good photos handholding the setup can be taken.

  5. Alastair says:

    Johannes,
    I have a 20-60 zoom eye piece for the scope.
    I have two cameras: a Panasonic lumix DMC FZ8 12 X optical zoom. I also nave a Canon Powershot S3 IS 12X
    Interestingly a colleague has just loaned me a DCB. It is problematic with the telescope’s zoom lens (keeps wanting to twist) and also the panasonic camera thinks the lens cap is on.
    Regards
    Alastair

  6. Johannes says:

    Dear Alastair,

    the eyepiece is good and the UCA would fit nicely on it – (if your eyepiece is older than a 1 1/2 years, we will have to change the eyecup in order for the UCA to slide on nicely. if you end up getting one, please make sure to tell the retailer or let me know (eyecup is free of charge) – the older eyecups are slightly bigger in diameter, which makes it harder to slide the UCA on to it).

    Both cameras seem to be good cameras and got good reviews on various forums. Unfortunately they are so called super-zooms or bridge-cameras and these usually dont work for digiscoping as they require a longer eye-relief and the lens elements extend too far forward. You can try holding them behind the eyepiece at various distances and see whether you get a picture, but i suspect even then you would get quite a bit of vignetting.

    p&s cameras with a zoom of x4 usually work

    http://www.swarovskioptik.com/en/digiscoping
    http://www.swarovskioptik.com/en/digiscoping_cameras
    http://digiscoperoftheyear.com/

    Have a look at the above links. They contain some good general information and recommendations.

    Please let me know in case you need any further information or help.

    happy birding and digiscoping,

    Hannes

  7. John says:

    Hi,
    I am interested in commencing digiscoping. Where in Australia can I purchase the Swarovski scopes etc?

    Many thanks,
    John

  8. Johannes says:

    Dear John,

    where in Australia are you located ? If you want to have a chat about digiscoping, call me on 0429 155 106 or send me your tel. number ( hannes.nothdurfter@swarovski.com ) and i will call you back.

    looking forward to hearing from you and kind regards,
    Hannes

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